I subscribe to a couple of Russian Blogs and Websites that post various data and information without the typical hype and filters of Western Science, Academia and the Press, let alone the fringe and "Alien" woo-woo crowd interests. The following are photos of some Super Megaliths from Southern Siberia near the mountains of Gornaya Shoria. The photos are from the website of Valery Uvarov.
The super megaliths were found and photographed for the first time by Georgy Sidorov on a recent expedition to the Southern Siberian mountains. The following images are from Valery Uvarov's Russian website.
There are no measurements given, but from the scale depicted by the human figures, these megaliths are much larger (as much as 2 to 3 times larger) than the largest known megaliths in the world. (Example: The Pregnant Woman Stone of Baalbek, Lebanon weighs in at approximately 1,260 ton). Some of these megaliths could easily weigh upwards of 3,000 to 4,000 tons.
There is little commentary on Valery's site, so the image are displayed here without much comments, other than my own limited observations.
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These megaliths reach well back into the mists of pre-history, so far in fact, that conjecture about their 'builders', methods, purpose and meaning is pure speculation, and as such, I would hesitate to offer any observation at all, other than to say our pre-historical past is richer than we ever dreamed.
John Jensen
John--Fascinating find. I feel strongly the megaliths are artificial, are worked. I hope someone of Chris Dunn's caliber can examine them for toolmarks and other evidence of artificiality. Along with Tiwanaku, Yonaguni, and the finds in Java and Bosnia, there can be no doubt of a precursor civilization before the Cataclysm. Keep up the good work.--Daniel Moore
ReplyDeleteThat civilization, pre -7,000 years ago, I don't think was one of the several megalithic cultures. There were at least 3, probably more.The largest stones ever found that had been worked and transported have a particular size weight characteristic. The 2nd set are those who built the Trilathons, the Underground stones at the Temple of the Mount, the Machu Pichu giant blocks, the Giza Gigal, and probably Ollantaytambo. A different group built the pyramids and the underground labyrinths on the Giza Plateau. I may have it wrong....But you get the picture. There were several different cultures.
DeleteAnyone with a brain and eye can see that these megaliths are man made. They are everywhere even under water. The truth is,we dont know how they did it but my guess is HUGE PEOPLE built it. Lets just stop listening to people paid by the smithsonian institute and use our heads to search out the real ruths. From fiji.
DeleteI tend to agree in general terms. We have substantive proof in the geological column that super giants lived on the earth at some time (at least several Epochs) ago. They ranged in size between 26' and 35' tall, or at least that is as large as we have hard evidence for. (A 5' footprint in a granite stone in South Africa)
DeleteAnyone with evidence of a 26'+ "super giant" has a Nobel Prize waiting for them.
DeleteMr. Jensen, thank you for your work. This is utterly fascinating. I've recently learned the Temple of Baalbek cite where the large blocks may be remnants of ancient lime quarry. I've looked at how lime is excavated in a variety of ways, to incl. large blocking. so, in light, could this ALSO be remnants of an ancient quarry? what else is in the surrounding area? are there ancient maps, historical documents, myths, folklore telling the tale? Has anyone 'dated' the area by earth core samples, carbon date the stones, surrounding trees or packrat middens? so many questions. Several thousand years ago was this area under water?
DeleteWhy do you find it so hard to reconcile 25' to 35' giants, when dinosuars lived at some time in the past that weighed over 120 tons, and trees grew to half a mile in diameter, centipeds were 6' long and flyers weighing above 500 lbs cruised the sky? Those facts suggest a variation or 'attenuation' in the 'G' force. Any change in 'G' force or attenuation force which would allow giant to super giant flora and fauna to suvive would equally account for super giant humans. I recognize that is not 'proof', though it is sound logic. Just because YOU have a problem with the logic, does not mean it is or is not logical.
DeletePhoebe....The quarry for the stones is about 2.4 miles distance over very rocky terrain, mostly downhill from the temple. There is little evidence that this site has been inundated in the recent past (the Holocene). Because this area is the home of the historical giants, defined in the oldest surviving epic-story in the world; 'The Epic of Gilgamesh' which includes references to giants. Gilgamesh and Enkidu go together to fight the evil Humbaba at the cedar mountains. (Mt. Hermon in the Beqaa Valley, Lebanon) The evil giants face was like a lion, a roar like a flood, a mouth of flames, breath that burns trees, and teeth like a dragons. In the end they cut off his head, I think makes the case that the survivors of the Last Great Cataclysm, came to this survival area from other parts of the world. The same story, more or less is told in the Talmud, The Bible, and the 'Book of Giants' part of the Dead Sea Scrolls. In those days the giants were referred to as 'Nephlim, Rapha or Rephiates'.
DeleteThe Baalbek stones represent the same general design principle for many megalithic examples from around the world where the dressing and use of 1200 to 1500 ton megalithic blocks are evidence of a culture that could and did cut, trim and move those megalithic blocks. The three other prominent sites besides Baalbek are The Temple Mount in Jerusalem, The Giza Plateau, and the megalithic complexes in Peru and Bolivia. Those are different in size, structure, placement, etc. than the Russian and French super megalithic sites. Better dressed, better fitted, etc. That's why I think they are entirely different cultures that did the two styles. Probably separated from each other by signicant periods of time. These largest blocks and the fused blocks in France just 'seem' to shout "I am from the furthest edges of antiquity..." though I have no solid evidence of that.
Many of your questions are answered in my book 'Earth Epochs' available here for free: http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/536932
great pictures.
ReplyDeleteim going for natural.
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The vid of this site looks like natural rock formations. We need more data.
DeleteLe vide ?-Si c'est cela,la végétation a depuis longtemps recouvert le site.
DeleteSo are about half the Geologist that are looking at it. The only issue with that is explaining how nature can stack dressed stones on top of each other. I guess it can, I have just never seen it before. Science is just now getting comfortable with 1,200 ton dressed megaliths, they will have a much longer period of adjustment to even contemplate yet another epoch or period to include colossal giants and megaliths on the order of 4,000 tons. Or a civilization of giants on the order of 35' + tall. What these megaliths mean, is that science and academia (particularly Archaeology and Paleoacrchaeology, Anthropology, et.al. will HAVE to deny their existence, for some extended period before the discussion of authenticity will ever be broached. A group that are not particularly noted for being the sharpest tools in the shed.
ReplyDeleteWell said John, I have worked with a team of geologists for 10 years now and although they are a great bunch of people they are die hard know it all's. They consistently make judgment calls on matters outside their area of expertise, second guess everyone who is not a Geologist. Constantly assume all others are wrong and must be systematically corrected by starting at the beginning of the matter in question and walking them through it step by step until they are able to recognize where they are mistaken and will repeat this process ad infinitum and will always assume from the beginning that they are correct and all others are wrong. It can be exhausting at times. Also they will never face up to the fact that a Geologist may state only opinion and cannot expect others to accept their findings as facts. One important thing to remember about Geologists is that their credentials never need to be updated, their stamp is good for life and they are never re-tested as many other professionals are, meaning their degree from 1952 may be their last contact with any form of instruction from others.
ReplyDeleteLOL by far the best long definition of the many acquaintances I tolerate almost daily. Jerry you are too kind.
DeleteJohn,
ReplyDeleteThe stones were cut, fitted and placed by ETs. I understand that a statement such as this can be hard to accept and seems to make light of such an impressive grouping of stones but it is, in fact, the truth.
A man of your experience and knowledge has heard all of the woo, woo alien explanations for magnificent structures around our world, so I'm not gonna bore you with more of the same.
I'm just gonna tell you, flat out; ETs did this.
The pyramids, Puma Punku, Gobekli Tepe, Machu Picchu and many other ruins on Earth are remnants of ET civilizations who have lived and visited here.
In order to accept this paradigm, a person has to awaken to what they see in our world and realize that science, as delivered to us, is unable to answer too many questions and that science also refuses to even make the attempt.
Why is it this way?
Because the "conspiracy theorists," who are actually truth seekers, are correct. Our world is controlled by dark forces and have kept hidden from humanity incredible knowledge and technology.
Humanity continues to flounder because the vast majority of our population believes the lies they are told on a daily basis and is convinced of the asinine foolishness that we are alone in this universe.
John, it's not woo, woo BS; we are not alone and we never have been. Our galaxy is teeming with intelligent civilizations and many of them visit us regularly. The ETs find humanity somewhat naive because even with unmistakable evidence of their past visits, such as Puma Punku, left behind, humans are able to deny the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life.
All of this human ignorance is about to come to an end, however, and when it does, the seven billion souls on Earth will awaken to the true nature of our universe.
Rest assured, John, this revelation is coming. We don't have much longer to wait.
Mike V.
If you follow my work at all, you would know that I am NOT in the least bit an advocate for 'Aliens' of any kind, let alone the so called 'Ancient' ones. I am entirely happy for you to have your own beliefs, and to advocate for them, but like any religious or belief based system, I view it for exactly what it is, a 'belief-based' viewpoint. No one has any evidence whatsoever, not the first tiny thing, that is any proof of 'extraterrestrial' origin. There is lots of anecdotal (eye-witness accounts) of many unknown craft, occupants and other aerial and underwater anomalies. None of which proves those anomalies, whatever they are, are FROM off planet, from somewhere out there in the Galaxy, the Universe or Multiverse. You have a 50-50 shot that there is life out there somewhere else. There either is, or there isn't. Until some 'proof' is put forward, there is only speculation. So it is a wash, at best. From a rationalist's point of view, the only observation that I am comfortable with, is that 'they' (vehicles and occupant anomalies) are here now, 'they' have always been here, or at least as long as we have both verbal and written records, they share DNA with other carbon based life forms on this planet, (Starchild Skull, and Elongated Skulls), which makes them more likely rather than less likely to be indigenous to this planet, or 'Original Terrestrials'. (OT's) Sharing DNA with all other life forms is the dead giveaway. You do not need to be a Molecular Biologist to 'get' the gist of that connection. ALL carbon based life forms on this planet are generally considered to be indigenous. Because known specimens of 'other' hominin forms carry some matching DNA to all other life forms on this planet, it means logically that 'they' are part of the fabric of life on this planet. The problem 'Ancient Alien' theorists have, is now that we have DNA samples from so called 'Aliens', (Starchild and Elongated Skulls) we don't get to explain away portions of their DNA matches that have nothing to do with Hominin life form, but is identical to every other carbon based life form on this planet, down to a beach sea cucumber. There are at least 23 known hominin forms throughout our historical past, including the 8 so called 'Alien' types. Nothing about them suggests they are any different than any other species on this planet, with different characteristics across many different biological niches. The DNA doesn't lie. 'They' are more likely, rather than less likely to be part of the fabric of life on Earth. At least that is the case I am going to make in my upcoming book.
DeleteSpot on. JJ. Continuing..Try The Pleiadian Mission by Randolph Winters based on www.theyfly.com and realise, if you have an open mind, that we first came here 22 million years ago as ancient man was still developing. That humankind has an almost 10 billion year history etc.
DeleteI agree with Mr. Jensen that the "aliens" are earthly, not from "outer space". I believe that the "aliens" are Lucifer's own creations, like semi-autonomous organic beings that he mass produces. Biblically, all of this stuff lines up. The fundamental battle is between good and evil, God and Lucifer. Lucifer wants to be worshiped, and he thinks he can win out over God. Lucifer is the driver behind world government, global spying, GMO food supplies and more. All of it is for control and manipulation of human beings. Lucifer had his show goinf before the Flood, and God destroyed all that. So now... no more giants. He wants to blend in now.
DeleteDefinitely some evil as revealed in genesis chapter6 n God wouldn't tolerate the evil these beings where corrupting his creation with. Yes they will reveal themselves again with a vengeance but most won't believe n will be devastated. As it was in the beginning, so shall it be in the end.
DeleteStone work of the antediluvians.
ReplyDeleteWe built those things, before we forgot who we were. As for the effect on the compasses of researchers, the same phenomenon appears at Coral Castle, built by Ed Leedskalnin, indicating that the stone was magnetized in order to alter the gravitational effect. The stories told to us by supposed "egyptologists" etc are deliberate falsehoods. Personally, the only thing I'd trust an egyptologist's word on is which kebab stand in Giza has the best garlic sauce.
ReplyDeleteI really wished it was man made but it actually looks like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Rock
ReplyDeleteJan, at a curiosity level, they make look similar, but from a geological view that don't look the same at all. Nature has demonstrated very few right angle lines in solid geometrical forms, (they do appear in snowflakes and crystalline structure, but little else, and nothing larger than about 1/4 to 1/2 inch or smaller. certainly nothing in 3 dimensional form that I am aware of in any size larger than an inch or so. What that means is larger megalithic stones that have right angle tri-dimensional faces, are more likely, rather than less likely to be manipulated in some non natural way to achieve that shape. I don't put this statement out as any kind of proof at all, but rather as a rational construct of the evidence. I don't speculate on any mechanism or process that might 'cause' the non natural shape. I recognize that some larger geological forms that have been thought to be non-natural, have proven to be natural geological formations after all, but the primary difference, (The Rock Wall, Texas is an example) there was little or no definitive dressed stone present in the structure. In the Russian instance, the photographic evidence seems to portray sections of 'dressed' stones placed at 'right angles' to other stones. That placement demands a review of the structure in minute detail, due to the fact that such a placement has never been reported before as a 'natural' formation, and has always been reported as 'non-natural'. (Except by those die hard folks in Academia and Science that have a Gradualism-Evolution ax to grind. They will shoe horn any data into that paradigm, as do their arch enemies, the folks hawking a Religious-Creationist agenda. Neither, in my view have much credibility.)
DeleteJohn, when do you anticipate your book will be released, and where will it be available? Myself and many others I know would be interested to read it.
DeleteHi Mark,
DeleteIt is in final first draft now, about 80,000 words and about 450 photographs. Lloyd Pye was just starting to write final draft on both my next 2 books, when he got diagnosed with the fast spreading cancer that he succumbed to in Dec. So I have to start all over looking for a final draft writer and partner in the deal. Hard to do. I have been a technical writer my whole career, (and artist) but I am not very good at writing to retail consumer level person at all. I am too old to learn how, so I will just struggle along till I find a final copy writer. But in any case, enough people want desperately to know the location of the Florida sunken offshore harbors, so I imagine that will help with getting the support I need. (I won't divulge the location until the book comes out.) I wasn't going to do it until I got an expedition funded, but I don't know if that will happen while I am still above ground. So I will put it in the book. I would think later this year it should be on Amazon.
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ReplyDeleteto Thomas T; I am not an advocate for or against any theory of the so-called 'fringe' or 'alternative' archaeology crowd. I specifically am not supportive of the so-called
ReplyDeleteBilly Meier narrative. But I also am not a debunker of that story either. As a unit of measure, I have no interest at all in 3rd party narratives regarding the phenomenon of OT's. (Other or Original Terrestrials) I AM interested in any empirical or 'hard' evidence that substantiates the actual existence for the OT's. Such evidence should not include photographic or video images, except those done under controlled conditions. In my view, we are probably less than 20 years away from being able to manipulate the electrostatic envelope, rendering access to the travelers therein. (OT's and others) In another space and time, (book) I will present proof that the G force. (gravity as we know it) actually does NOT exist, and what we observe as 'G' is in fact an artifact of 'Electrostatic Density'. The manipulation of that Density opens the Universe to so called 'anti-gravity travel', due to the fact that a dipole exchange in the ESF or Electrostatic Field occurs nearly instantaneous over distances greater than our galaxy. OT's and others can currently manipulate the Electrostatic Field Density. The bleed off is limitless energy, which our Science and Technology vanguards at JPL and other National Laboratories are working on daily as I write this. We are close. I think we will know definitively in 10 years, and be able to build a 'manipulating mechanism' within 10 years after that. That means we have unlimited deep space travel within 30 years.
Good stuff, good comments. My thinking is that these were built by the Nephalim that God destroyed with the Flood, choosing Noah to survive because Noah's DNA was "perfect in all his generations". Uncorrupted by Luciferian DNA. Sounds preposterous, yes? Google up a guy named L.A. Marzulli on youtube and watch his videos.
ReplyDeleteAs I mentioned above, I do not support creationist views on any level other than empirical. (Example, The City of Bashan has been found and identified as the primary city of the Giants of Northern Israel from Joshua's time, about 3,600 years ago. And was, in all probability, the capital of Og, the King who's bedstead was 14.5 feet long. If you used non theological terminology, I would be closer to your viewpoint. For example, if you use the terms that prior to the Last Great Cataclysm, some of the indigenous hominids were 'Giants', with only a few surviving that catastrophe, which they in fact did, we would have some common ground. But adding mysticism, mythology and outright speculation doesn't work for me. I am entirely OK with it being your belief system, but that after all is what it is. The idea that some specific grey haired grey bearded all powerful being generated 'The Flood' for some mythical 'Sin Cleansing' process is just too childish a magical construct for me. I am entirely happy to use the Old Testament to substantiate dates, places, people and events where it is not the only resource for said data. But anything beyond that outside my field of interest and research.
DeleteJohn, the King's bed was 14.5 feet long so he could get all his concubines in it...not because he was a giant. ;)
DeleteDo we have a lat-long position for this?
ReplyDeleteNo I don't still working on that.
DeleteThe past is indeed much more mysterious than we dare to think.
ReplyDeleteI heard granite mentioned in relation to these megaliths,
the ancient Egyptians were known to use granite,
brought from many miles away,
we now understand that granite has certain hidden qualities,
which include "natural" radiation and radon gas,
The ancients and their worldwide civilization is much more sophisticated,
than we can start to believe
The granite shows machining. Google, machining Giza Granite. Also pyramids built over 70,000 years ago by Lyrians. The Pleiadian Mission by Randolph Stevens. otherwise it's guesswork or msinfo from Smithsonian, Egyptologists etc.
ReplyDeleteI think as a bare minimum, society, especially Western society and academia needs to be a lot more open to a range of alternative theories from the commonly plausible to the more fringe extreme. It's not unscientific to consider more extreme possibilities because anything is possible. It is however, unscientific to shut off possibilities because they do not fit the macro geological or Human Civilization theory taught as fact today.
ReplyDeleteThe fact is that we have very limited knowledge of our distant past. These things may have been made by a very old extinct advanced civilization. If so then how or why did they become extinct? Were they ET's? Personally, considering the vastness of space, i'd say there were countless civilizations out there. Maybe some have been here before but if advanced civilizations knew our beautiful planet was here, why do they not control it today? Why would they leave us alone to wreck it like we are? That never makes sense to me.
Either way, this is a fascinating find and i'll be watching this space.
Levitated Mass is a 2012 large-scale sculpture by Michael Heizer on the campus of the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. The installation consists of a 340-ton boulder affixed above a concrete trench through which visitors may walk.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDh_QEYoFTE
Why would you post a link to a youtube video that does NOT illustrate the sculpture you mention? I understand that the video contains a presentation of the difficulty of modern methods of megalithic stone-transportation, but this field of inquiry needs clarity and acumen, not misdirection. Please, edit your comment to include a better link, like, say, this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi2V92RcC_A
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Hi John. This is an amazing find. Thanks for relaying this information to us.
ReplyDeleteOn the topic of ETs, I also feel that automatically attributing to aliens all megalithic structures that are engineered in ways that we are not able to with our current technology is a bit simplistic. The builders could very well have been non-homo sapiens hominids that were native to this earth but are no longer with us or not overtly showing there presence, or even homo sapiens who have reached a level of technology that we can only dream of.
But with regard to the existence of ETs in the greater cosmos, there is an astrophysicist called Paul LaViolette who thinks there is positive proof. He is pretty sure that the pulsars were intentionally arranged in the heavens by an intelligence. If he's correct, that would mean that ETs may or may not have come to earth, but they are out there. Here is a link to his papers on pulsars:
Evidence that radio pulsars may be artificial beacons of ETI origin
Paper presented at the 195th meeting of the American Astronomical Society
Wednesday, January 12, 2000,
http://etheric.com/evidence-that-radio-pulsars-may-be-artificial-beacons-of-eti-origin/
I am a major student of Paul's work, and have nearly everything he has published in my (electronic) reference library. He, and other proponents of an 'Electric Universe' perspective have generally similar views on 'Intelligent Life in the Universe'. I don't happen to share that view in more than speculative terms. You will note that he always uses 'may', 'might' and so on, and does not make specific declarative statements, so I am entirely OK with his perspective, while I don't necessarily agree with all of his conclusions. I still think his work is seminal, in any case.
DeleteMy disagreement regarding the artificial nature of pulsars is that we are stepping off into a realm of physics that is on a scale we have no frame of reference for. We practically have no idea how things work on a macro scale in this or other galaxies, particularly regarding dipole exchange. And I am particularly suspicious of folks that make a living studying the effect in a sub-atomic world, transferring those observations intact into a macro galactic or universal level.
My argument in essence is that signals of any recognizable pattern do not have to be necessarily artificial. Acoustic frequencies (and dipole exchange) can and probably do generate both symbolic and geometrical complex forms, leaving us with the opportunity to view some very sophisticated natural results from stellar broadcasts of one kind or another. Paul generally has the same view as mine regarding what is commonly referred to as 'G' or gravity, being actually an artifact of his Electric Universe perspective and my 'Electrostatic Earth' viewpoint. To many that may look like a very insignificant difference, but to those of us studying the dynamics of the universal dipole effect, one is at absolute right angles to the other. Both of us are absolutely convinced we are right but I at least am not antagonistic to Paul's view, though I suspect he is less charitable to mine. I am synthesizing my views into a book, which I certainly hope is completed soon, though I have been working on it for about three years, and I don't seem to get past the general theoretical construct to a synopsis and conclusion. The body of the work can be outlined in a simple paragraph, but proving the case is turning out to be daunting. I almost have to have or build an over-unity device for proof of concept. I am working on the design of that now, which will probably turn out to be a resonator sink in some form. Though some folks at JPL and Los Alamos are already doing that, (and it is my understanding patents have already been issued) which means I may see a working model based on that work, before I get the plans for mine done.
In any case, thanks for your input.
Electric Universe Theory is great, and I am glad you are devoting some of your mental energy to developing useful concepts in the field. Have you seen Stan Deyo's "great unveiling" of antigravity-technology? Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsagEYfxPgs
DeleteI found his descriptions of gravity-shells quite compelling.
That looks like an amazing site, with incredible implications.
ReplyDeleteSome people will see something natural looking at the site and then declare all of it must arise from natural processes, but that would miss the point entirely. I remember from my visit to Macchu Picchu & other sites in S America that the indiginous builders expertly designed their sites to incorporate natural outcrops
To my eye it looks like a mixture of man-made and natural. Like John says, nature just doesn't do right angles on that sort of scale.
I'm not expecting the intellectual cowards & dinosaurs in Academia to adequately address this new anomaly, so we can add it to the growing list alongside Baalbek, Gobekli Tepi, weather erosion patterns on the Sphinx, and the underwater ruins off the coast of Japan. Screw them.
Good luck John, and keep us updated.
Hi John, Great work finding these photos. I am a reporter for Epoch Times. I wrote about these megaliths after seeing this blog post: http://epochtim.es/gHpV I would like to follow up on this and get in touch with the investigators in Russia. I'm hoping to enlist the help of some Russian colleagues of mine, since it's hard going for an English speaker. If you have any suggestions in the meantime as to whom I could contact for more information, I'd be happy for the help. I'm currently having some trouble finding contact information for Valery Uvarov; I was thinking he might be able to point me in the right direction. You can get in touch with me at tara.macisaac@epochtimes.com with any more information on these megaliths or any other leads you pick up on such fascinating things! Cheers, Tara
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DeleteSorry, I don't have the time or skills to be your assistant researcher. I appreciate the offer, though. Particularly in light of how beneficial that appears to be from your description.
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ReplyDeleteWow! I set up blogs for my books. It is kind of like having a reply column for the book. I mention it in the books copy--Forward, if I remember right...
ReplyDeleteIs there a way of getting high resolution photos, esp. photos that did not turn out as you wished. (I have been taught how to alter photos by the best in the business.) I would like to give you such services so as to allow you the best opportunity to inspect the walls for tool marks yourself. (Keep in mind that the blackened out areas of a photo contain lots of useful information that can be manipulated to show up, however, areas of over exposure can't be helped.)
IT IS AN OLD RUSSIAN QUARRY
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ReplyDeleteEveryone is entitled to their opinion, but I am not interested in personal castigation particularly when it is framed within bigoted religious views.
ReplyDeleteno hay que indagar demasiado para comprender que tal precisión en la construcción y manipulación de granito, es necesario una tecnología para el trabajo bastante más avanzada que la que actualmente esta datada para tal época. Bien una vez entendido esto lo que es necesario descubrir es que tipo de herramienta es la que hace falta para hacer tal trabajo, construir una replica con las caracteristicas que se estimaria tendria y pos terior mente determinar como una cultura tan primitiva pudo ingeniar tal herramienta y con que medios... logicamente a simple vista se limita a dos posibilidades generales... juzgen ustedes mismos.
ReplyDeleteya es hora de que los seres superiores nos den un respiro ,una respuesta o tal vez una esperanza,estamos tan desorientados los "seres humanos".sl2
ReplyDeleteIs it too hard to compare with other rocks and other formations in the area? Could not one of the top rocks be lifted to look for signs of dressing on the unexposed surface?
ReplyDeleteDoes there need be any speculation. If they look interesting, simply investigate them, they won't lie. They are not people.
There is an expedition being mounted for this project. It is a whole lot more complicated to get the funding, staff, support, backing, materials, supplies and Academic accredited credentialed folks pulled together all at an appropriate weather season to do the work, than it may appear on the surface. It is why so many like projects never get off the ground. It takes money, and a hell of a lot of it to even get a project off the ground, and when it does, vested interests (meaning who put up the money) control a lot of the the way the outcomes are distributed. Don't expect much for about 18 months.
DeleteHELLO EVERYONE! what is your opinion about this? is natural or not?
ReplyDeletehttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CPA7T_4ZqHg/TObwOjIp_zI/AAAAAAAAAeE/mUg_BJRzWy8/s1600/IMG_0794.JPG
Most of the photos look, to me, to show natural rock formations quite similar to what we have in abundance here in the US, especially atop the oldest, most eroded mountains in the Appalachians. Even granite has natural fracture lines and under certain conditions you get these long horizontal planes, etc. The only thing in John's collection that looks "mysterious" to me is the roof formation. I would suspect that people found these--at any time in the last 10,000 years--in a similar state and dressed them--sharpened the edges here and there--either to quarry them or to create memorials or living spaces. 90% natural.
DeleteAlexei,
ReplyDeleteThis is a personal blog, not an open discussion forum, but I will answer your question none the less. The particular columns you reference are quite common in the geological column, and are considered by most Geologists as natural formations. So there is nothing the least bit 'artificial' about them.
The pictures don't show enough but the best of them is the last one and that too doesn't show enough as its still obscured.
ReplyDeleteThe way I would judge it would be to look at the "join lines" because when building, blocks are usually stacked in a staggered pattern (diag1) and very seldom stacked one directly above the next (diag2). The best would be to see if they are built like a brick wall then its not natural as faults don't 'step' through in a pretty pattern. A view from the top would also help to see if any are making corners like brick walls do (diag3).
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I see a golden ratio triangle and cut a small golden ratio triangle = this shape
DeleteI understand your point, but you are looking at it from modern building technology. There are many designs worldwide that defy 'staggered' methods. One are the many multifaceted stones that fit so precisely a business card will not fit in the joins. Sacsyhauman, Peru is an example. Another is cross stacking, and a third is some form of 'fusing' that we still don't understand. The mostly buried gigantic wall in France is an example. So I am looking at these megaliths with an open mind until onsite research can tell us more about their characteristics.
ReplyDeleteI don't think that there is even any real question on these being non-natural. There is no known example of a 'natural' tri lateral face on a regular symmetrically edged rectangle cube. (And I have been at this for a very long time).
I do however, understand your points and don't discount the final evidence may indicate you are absolutely accurate.
Megaliths: dolmens, pyramids, cromlechs ( Stonehenge) barrows ( Avebury), the statues of Easter Island and the other is defense.
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You have anticipated a series of blogs I am in the process of working on, where dolmens play a significant part in that narrative. I don't disagree with the conclusions on the above site as to the dolmen's 'purpose and function' as being defensive I just disagree with who the enemy or attackers were. I won't make the case in this response, but the blog series will make that case definitively. The dolmens are not a stand alone segment that speaks to a particular segment of our pre-historic past, but part of a fabric of data and information, that taken as a whole, paints a very distinct picture of some aspects of life for our stone age ancestors.
ReplyDeleteI totally disagree with the concept that classic pyramid structures serve a similar 'purpose and function'. They are entirely different in shape and design than the dolmens and consequently serve a distinctly different 'purpose and function'.
The only preview I will give is for the reader to keep in mind Buckminster Fuller's axiom that 'form follows function'. And that should clarify to a degree where I am going regarding dolmen, pyramid and other 'like' megalithic designs.
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http://www.mundodesconocido.es/ruinas-megaliticas-recien-encontradas-en-rusia-contienen-los-bloques-de-piedra-mas-grandes-jamas-vistos.html
Ruinas megalíticas recién encontradas en Rusia contienen los bloques de piedra más grandes jamás vistos.
Un increíble descubrimiento que se ha hecho recientemente en Rusia amenaza con hacer añicos las teorías convencionales sobre la historia del planeta. En el Monte Shoria en el sur de Siberia, los investigadores han encontrado una pared absolutamente masiva de piedras de granito. Algunas de estas gigantescas piedras de granito se estima que pesa más de 3.000 toneladas (algunos estiman que hay piedras de 4000 toneladas), y como se verá más adelante, muchas de ellas fueron cortadas “con superficies planas, ángulos rectos y esquinas afiladas”. Nada de tal magnitud ha sido descubierto antes.
La piedra más grande encontrada en las ruinas megalíticas de Baalbek, Líbano pesa algo menos de 1.500 toneladas. Entonces, ¿Quién en este planeta ha podido cortar piedras de granito de 3.000 ó 4000 tonelada con extrema precisión, transportarlos por la ladera de una montaña y apilarlas a 40 metros de altura?
De acuerdo con la versión comúnmente aceptada de la historia, sería imposible para los seres humanos antiguos con tecnología muy limitada poder llevar a cabo tal proeza. ¿Qué dirán nuestros arqueólogos oficialistas?… ¿que con cuerdas vegetales y planos inclinados se puede manipular grácilmente 3000 toneladas con unas cuantas manos?… o quizás insistan diciéndonos que con herramientas de bronce y cobre se puede tallar semejantes monstruos.
Aparentemente, los súper megalitos y fotografiados por primera vez por Georgy Sidorov en una reciente expedición a las montañas de Siberia del sur. Las siguientes imágenes son de la página web rusa Valery Uvarov.
Pero… ¿quien y como?
Fuente de la noticia:
Earth Epochs
http://earthepochs.blogspot.com.es/2014/02/super-megaliths.html
Super Megaliths
My online web book: AncientCanalBuilders.com
I subscribe to a couple of Russian Blogs and Websites that post various data and information without the typical hype and filters of Western Science, Academia and the Press, let alone the fringe and "Alien" woo-woo crowd interests. The following are photos of some Super Megaliths from Southern Siberia near the mountains of Gornaya Shoria. The photos are from the website of Valery Uvarov.
The super megaliths were found and photographed for the first time by Georgy Sidorov on a recent expedition to the Southern Siberian mountains. The following images are from Valery Uvarov's Russian website.
There are no measurements given, but from the scale depicted by the human figures, these megaliths are much larger (as much as 2 to 3 times larger) than the largest known megaliths in the world. (Example: The Pregnant Woman Stone of Baalbek, Lebanon weighs in at approximately 1,260 ton). Some of these megaliths could easily weigh upwards of 3,000 to 4,000 tons.
There is little commentary on Valery's site, so the image are displayed here without much comments, other than my own limited observations.
Links:
http://www.taringa.net/post/noticias/18831073/Descubren-en-Rusia-construciones-con-Piedras-Gigantescas.html
These are examples of natural jointing.
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ReplyDeleteThis discovery seems amazing to me, my name is Santiago I am 25 years old and I am from Argentina and I know that the story is just beginning to be discovered, thanks to people like you who have an open mind and work hard. I hope the government does not stop its work and stop hiding the true story. I am anxious that you can go ahead with the investigations and wish you the best from now on, you have in this discovery the key to revealing many mysteries ... that is what I believe. A big hug and I'll be paying attention to the blog.