Giant Humans in the Historical Record
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Note that this material is presented without prejudice or favor to either side
of the Creation – Evolution argument. I am neither a supporter-advocate nor
detractor-debunker for either side. I am however, keenly interested in the
actual historical record.
Patagonian Giants
Antonio Pigafetta —a Venetian nobleman— joined the expedition of
Magellan as the official chronicler of the voyage. Pigafetta kept a richly
detailed diary of the expedition in which he made entries every day of the
entire odyssey. Pigafetta said that one of the reasons for joining the
expedition was to gain some fame for posterity. Here is an excerpt from his
diary:
"Leaving that place, we finally reached 49 and one-half degrees
toward the Antarctic Pole. As it was winter, the ships entered a safe port to
winter. We passed two months in that place without seeing anyone. One day we
suddenly saw a naked man of giant stature on the shore of the port, dancing, singing,
and throwing dust on his head. The captain general sent one of our men to the
giant so that he might perform the same actions as a sign of peace. Having done
that, the man led the giant to an islet into the presence of the
captain-general. When the giant was in the captain-general's and our presence,
he marveled greatly, and made signs with one finger raised upward, believing
that we had come from the sky.
"He was so tall that we reached only to his waist, and he was
well proportioned."
His face was large and painted red all over, while about his eyes he
was painted yellow; and he had two hearts painted on the middle of his cheeks.
His scanty hair was painted white. He was dressed in the skins of animals
skillfully sewn together. That animal has a head and ears as large as those of
a mule, a neck and body like those of a camel, the legs of a deer, and the tail
of a horse, like which it neighs, and that land has very many of them. His feet
were shod with the same kind of skins which covered his feet in the manner of
shoes. In his hand he carried a short, heavy bow, with a cord somewhat thicker
than those of the lute, and made from the intestines of the same animal, and a
bundle of rather short cane arrows feathered like ours, and with points of
white and black flint stones in the manner of Turkish arrows, instead of iron.
Those points were fashioned by means of another stone." (Diary of
Pigafetta, pp. 51-52).
“It is significant to note that the above narrative is taken
from the journal of the 'Official Chronicler' of Magellan's voyage of
discovery. That is the one person above all others, who is tasked with
recording and keeping the most accurate records of events, activities, etc.
whether exotic or mundane. This person is not only responsible to the Commander
of the voyage, but also to King and Country for his eye witness accounts as a
complete, precise and accurate testimony of events that occurred during the voyage.
Based on his position and responsibilities alone, his first hand eye witness
testimony of encounters with 10' giants MUST be taken as factual information by
an unimpeachable witness. To do otherwise, is to trivialize the importance of
the Chronicler's fundamental accountability.”
It also gives foundation credit to other reports of giants in the
Americas, Europe and the Middle East in other eras, particularly those from the
early 12th and 13th century BC that follow in this narrative.
John Jensen 9-17-2012
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Historical (Documented) Giants
Across the last (at least) 6,000 years,
records indicate the presence of medium sized giant hominids up through the
post Colombian period.
This section will look at the evidence of
both oral and written records, as well as artifacts, bones and full skeletons
that substantiate the actual existence of those post glacial mid or smaller
sized giants. (Much larger than modern man, but not nearly as large as earlier
Epoch Giants) The records and artifacts suggest current Epoch giant hominids up
through the post Colombian era were the smaller of the giants, standing between
8' to 13' in height, and weighing between 850 and 3200 lbs.
In addition, this section will look at
variations of hominids and hominin types, and their relationship to their
antediluvian predecessors. Of particular interest are the Peruvian Coneheads,
and other hominid types including the Starchild Skull.
This section will document the case that
surviving giants and other (derivative) hominid types, and small to medium
sized dinosaurs, particularly Sauropods, Triceratops, and Hadrosaurs lived in
isolated (declining) small groups up into the Early Common Era. It is certainly
likely that some aquatic forms may still exist.
In this section, I make reference to
records contained in ancient 'religious texts', particularly the Talmud, Bible
and some Apocryphal texts, such as 'The Book of Enoch'. I make reference to
place names, events, people, and 'Giants', without supporting any claim of the
nature, purpose, meaning or religious significance of such records. It is an
important distinction. This inquiry is not taken to support or debunk
Creationism or Evolution. I have tried to extract primary factual data from
source material while not including any opinion or bias as to purpose or
meaning of that particular data.
Historical Text References to Giants:
The Book of Giants: The Book of Giants was a work apparently composed in Syriac (an eastern
dialect of Aramaic). The book was entirely lost until the twentieth century,
although a few scant references to it survived in Latin, Greek, and Arabic,
indicating that it involved battles of the ancient giants. Then about a century
ago many highly fragmentary Manichean works written in Central Asian languages
were recovered archaeologically at Turfan, in China (and much of the find
remains unpublished even at present). The Dead Sea Scrolls contain fragments of
the 'Book of Giants'.
The
Epic of Gilgamesh: What is claimed
as the oldest surviving epic-story in the world; 'The epic of Gilgamesh' also includes a references to giants.
Gilgamesh and Enkidu go together to fight the evil Humbaba at the cedar
mountains. The evil giants face was like a lion, a roar like a flood, a mouth
of flames, breath that burns trees, and teeth like a dragons. In the end they
cut off his head.
Herodotus in Book 1, Chapter 68: Describes how the Spartans uncovered in Tegea the body of Orestes which
was seven cubits long -- around 10' 5". In his book, 'The Comparison of
Romulus with Theseus' Plutarch describes how the Athenians uncovered the body
of Theseus, which was of more than ordinary size. The kneecaps of Ajax were
exactly the size of a discus for the boy's pentathlon, wrote Pausanias. A boy's
discus was about twelve centimeters in diameter, while a normal adult patella
is around five centimeters, suggesting Ajax may have been around 14 feet tall.
Pliny: The Arabian
giant Gabara was 9 feet 9 inches.
This Arabian giant is mentioned by Pliny, who says he was the tallest man seen
in the days of Claudius.
Andronicus II. was 10
feet in height. He was grandson of Alexius Comnnus. Nictas asserts that he had
seen him.
Elea'zer: was 7 cubits (nearly 10.5 feet).
Vitellius sent this giant to Rome; and he is mentioned by Josephus. (Josephus speaks of a Jew 10 feet 2 inches).
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Biblical references to giants:
Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of
God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same
became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
1 Chronicles 20:6 And yet again there was war at Gath, where was a man of great stature,
whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each
foot and he also was the son of the giant.
1 Chronicles 20:8 These were born unto the giant in
Gath; and they fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.
Deuteronomy 1:28 'Whither shall we
go up? our brethren have discouraged our heart, saying, the people are greater
and taller than we; the cities are great and walled up to heaven; and moreover
we have seen the sons of the Anakims there”.
Deuteronomy 2:11
Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites called them Emims.
Deuteronomy 2:20
'..giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call
them Zamzummims.
Deuteronomy 3:11
For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant
of giants; behold his bedstead was a
bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits
was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a
man. (ibid: 13' long and 6' wide)
Og of Bashan's bedstead |
Deuteronomy 3:13
And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the
kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob,
with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.
Joshua 12:4 And the coast of
Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei,
Joshua 13:12
All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in
Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.
Joshua 15:8
And the border went up by the valley of the son of
Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the
border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of
Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward:
Joshua 17:15
And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great
people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in
the land of the Perizzites and of the giants,
if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee.
Joshua 18:16
And the border came down to the end of the
mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the
valley of the giants on the north,
and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and
descended to Enrogel,
Numbers 13:33 ANAK, father of
the Anakim. 'The Hebrew spies said they were mere grass-hoppers in comparison
with these giants' (3)
1 Samuel 17:4 And there
went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six
cubits and a span.
1Samuel 21:16
And Ishbibenob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose spear
weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight, he being girded with a new
sword, thought to have slain David.
2 Samuel 21:18 And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the
Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the
sons of the giant.
2 Samuel 21:20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature,
that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty
in number; and he also was born to the giant.
2 Samuel 21:22 These four were born to the giant
in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.
1 Chronicles 20:4 And it came to pass after this, that there arose war at Gezer with the
Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai, that was of
the children of the giants: and they
were subdued.
Over 20 direct
references to Giants, their localities and families in the early biblical
texts, means their actual physical presence is factually historical. Based on
the above history, we will review the Cities of Bashan, the Capital City of Og,
King of Bashan.
A note about
'Cubit' measurement. The 'Cubit' defines a precise unit measurement of
length. used throughout the period as a recognizable and valid measurement for
trade purposes. It was acknowledged by all trading partners as a standard unit
of measure. Actually, both Sumerian and Egyptian 'cubits' had two measurements,
one a 'common' measurement of 18”, and the other a 'Royal' measurement of 20.4”
. The 'common' cubit is recognized by most scholars as the unit of measure in
Biblical texts. That is how Goliath's 'six cubits and a span is converted to
9'9” in height. (a 'span' is exactly half a common cubit, or 9”.)
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Individual Giants referenced.
- ANAK Father of a Clan of
Giants living in Cannan. (Num 12:28)
- ARBA Forefather of Anak
and the Anakim. (Josh 15:32, 21:11)
- AHIMAN A descendant of Arba
and Anak who lived in Kiriath-Arba, later called 'Hebron'. (Num 13:10) One of three giants driven out
of Hebron by Caleb. (Jos 15:14, Jud 1:10,
20)
- RAPHA Early ancestor of all
the giant clans in Palestine-Bashan, including Anakites,Emites and Horites.
(Duet 2:10; 2 Sam 21:16,18,20,22; 1 Chron 20:4,6,8)
- SEPHAR Another Anikite
patriarch like Arba. (Josh 15:15)
- OG The King of Bashan, identified
as the last of “the Rephaites” is the largest giant referenced. Og ruled near
Mount Hermon, where according to Enoch, Angels sired the Nephilim. Og's army
was defeated and he was killed by the Isrealites near Edrei, while the Army was
still commanded by Moses. (Duet 3:1-11)
- SHESHAI A descendant of Arba
and Anak who lived in Kiriath-Arba, later called 'Hebron'. (Num 13:10) One of three giants driven out
of Hebron by Caleb. (Jos 15:14, Jud
1:10, 20)
- TALMAI A descendant of Arba
and Anak who lived in Kiriath-Arba, later called 'Hebron'. (Num 13:10) One of three giants driven out
of Hebron by Caleb. (Jos 15:14, Jud
1:10, 20)
- GOLIATH Was descendant from
the Anakim giants. Champion of the Philistines. Was about 9' 9" tall, wore armor
weighing 125 lbs, his spearhead weighed 15 lbs,
(1 Sam 17:4; Josh 11:22)
- LAHMI A brother of Goliath,
from Gath. Used a spear similar to one used by Goliath. (1 Chron 20:5; 2 Sam
21:19)
- ISHBI-BENOB A giant living in
Gath with the Philistines in southern Canaan. Was killed by David's nephew
Abishai in a battle between Israelites and Philistines. His spearhead was 7.5
lbs, half the size of Goliath's spearhead. (2 Sam 21:15-27,22)
- SAPH or SAPPAI Another giant
who lived with the Philistines in Gath. Was killed by one of David's men:
'Sibbachai the Hushathite'. (1 Chron 20:4,8; 2 Sam 21:18,22)
- Unnamed A giant with 6
fingers on each hand, and 6 toes on each foot. (2 Sam 21:10-22; 1 Chron 20:6,8)
- Unnamed Another giant from
Gath, killed in battle by David's nephew, Jonathon.
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The following is a chart of the Tribes and Clans of Giants from Bashan
- Mount Hermon
The following data and information documents the modern era
re-discovery of many cities of Bashan by the 19th Century Explorer,
Josiah Porter. The account is taken from his book ' The Giant Cities of Bashan'
published in 1882.
Bashan, City of Giants
The ancient
territory of Bashan now lies in southern Lebanon, western Syria, and part of
the disputed Golan Heights. How could a province measuring not more than 30 by
20 miles (50 by 32 kilometers) support the reported number of fortified cities,
especially when the greater part of it was a wilderness of rock? But,
mysterious and incredible as this seems, the cities built and occupied 4,000
years ago by giants exist even yet.
Nineteenth
century explorer, Josiah Porter, traversed their empty streets; he opened doors
of their houses; he slept peacefully in their long-deserted halls. From a tower
in one of them, Salcah, Porter counted some 30 towns and villages dotting the
surface of the plain. He reports: "On the spot, with my own eyes, I have
seen that it is literally true. The cities are there to this day. Some of them
retain the ancient names recorded in the Bible.
These 'cities'
are really walled towns normally only about a hectare (2½ acres) in area. They
appear to be scattered around the ancient fortress just outside El Khodor,
which is built on a high volcanic plug. This fortress has been built and
rebuilt several times since, but there is plenty of evidence of really ancient
foundations and structures dating well before the Roman ruins, which are very
obvious. I imagine that King Og (referred to in Numbers 21) ruled from this
fortress.
Worldwide, most
ancient cities have vanished. Not so Bashan. It is literally crowded with towns
and large villages - most of them, until recently, deserted. Yet they are not
ruined! Many of the houses in these cities are perfect, as if only finished
yesterday. The walls are sound, the roofs unbroken, the doors, and even the
window-shutters in place. The walls of the cities are 15 feet thick and 30 feet
high”. “ Porter found the huge gates still in place.
Rooms inside
private houses measure up to 20 feet high. Here are huge rooms and apartments
in perfect preservation. One by one, Porter entered some of these old houses,
went up stairs and visited the rooms. Moss grows over the ruins. Groups of
tapering columns spring up from the dense foliage of the oaks. Luxuriant
creepers twist around the pillars. Brambles grow in festoons over the doorways.
Branches of trees shoot through gaping cracks in some old walls. Owls flap
their wings and foxes and jackals scamper along the streets.
The rocks are
black, the soil is black, the buildings are all black - but not gloomy. The
grass is green, the oak foliage, glittering in the sun, is brilliant. The
private houses bear the marks of the most remote antiquity. They leave us to
conclude that the cities were built by giants - a race of giants that has been
extinct for more than 3,000 years. Porter noted that the highways of Bashan
were still in place, completely covered here and there, with the branches of
oak trees and straggling brambles.
"There is
plenty of evidence of ancient black basalt 'cities', mostly within modern
townships, which are integrated with the ruins. Some of the evidence is very
good, including the high-arched doorway into a large house in Al Harisah, which
has cleverly designed, high-arched stone ceilings. It supports a new house
which has just been plonked on top, with livestock and accumulating debris
occupying the rooms below.
* From (J.
Porter, The Giant Cities of Bashan, T. Nelson and Son, London, 1882)
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Other
Giant Related Anomalies
Without making
any unnecessary claims, the 20 or so references to several dozen different
giants and remnants of giants, as well as clans and tribes, is historically
accurate, because the city of Bashan with 10′ doorways and 12′ rooms is
standing proof of that claim.
What you have is historical (Old Testament)
records of Giants, (Og, King of Bashan, and Goliath and his 4 siblings 400
years later), and actual Archaeological remains of entire cities, from Bashan
to the megalithic ruins of Baalbek, and Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem
indicating that giants, their cities and their megalithic stonework were more
likely than not, a historical fact in the region of the Golan Heights.
What is also
interesting in this light is that Mount Hermon in the Bashan district was a
major religious center before Jerusalem was organized as the seat of King
David’s empire. In addition, the ancient platforms of Baalbek are less than 30
miles north of the city of Bashan. Also, it is noteworthy that the great cut
and worked stone building materials of Bashan, as well as the giant stones of
Baalbek and the megaliths under Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem have many of the
same characteristics.
The specific
information regarding historical references to the Giants of the Old Testament
seems to be as accurate and compelling as any ancient document, and seems to
have much factual data that can be verified outside the boundaries of faith and
prejudice.
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The following information will review other published data and
information from other secular sources from the USA and other world locations
that document artifacts and evidence of giant humans. From
www.stangrist.com
"A skeleton which is reported to have been of enormous
dimensions" was found in a clay coffin, with a sandstone slab containing
hieroglyphics, during mound explorations by a Dr Everhart near Zanesville,
Ohio.(American Antiquarian, v3, 1880,
pg61)
Ten skeletons "of both sexes and of gigantic size" were taken
from a mound at Warren, Minnesota, 1883. (St. Paul Pioneer Press, May 23, 1883)
A skeleton 7 feet 6 inches long was found in a massive stone structure
that was likened to a temple chamber within a mound in Kanawha County, West
Virginia, in 1884. (American Antiquarian,
v6, 1884 133f. Cyrus Thomas, Report on
Mound Explorations of the Bureau of Ethnology, 12th Annual Report,
Smithsonian Bureau of Ethnology, 1890-91)
A large mound near Gasterville, Pennsylvania, contained a vault in
which was found a skeleton measuring 7 feet 2 inches. Inscriptions were carved
on the vault. (American Antiquarian,
v7, 1885, 52f)
In 1885, miners discovered the mummified remains of woman measuring 6
feet 8 inches tall holding an infant. The mummies were found in a cave behind a
wall of rock in the Yosemite Valley.
In Minnesota, 1888, were discovered remains of seven skeletons 7 to 8
feet tall. (St. Paul Pioneer Press,
June 29, 1888)
A mound near Toledo, Ohio, held 20 skeletons, seated and facing east
with jaws and teeth "twice as large as those of present day people,"
and besides each was a large bowl with "curiously wrought hieroglyphic
figures." (Chicago Record,
Oct. 24, 1895; cited by Ron G. Dobbins, NEARA Journal, v13, fall 1978)
The skeleton of a huge man was uncovered at the Beckley farm, Lake
Koronis, Minnesota; while at Moose Island and Pine City, bones of other giants
came to light. (St. Paul Globe,
Aug. 12, 1896)
In 1911, several red-haired mummies ranging from 6 and a half feet to 8
feet tall were discovered in a cave in Lovelock, Nevada.
In February and June of 1931, large skeletons were found in the
Humboldt lake bed near Lovelock, Nevada. The first of these two skeletons found
measured 8 1/2 feet tall and appeared to have been wrapped in a gum-covered
fabric similar to the Egyptian manner. The second skeleton was almost 10 feet
long.(Review - Miner, June 19, 1931)
A 7 foot 7 inch skeleton was reported to have been found on the
Friedman ranch, near Lovelock, Nevada, in 1939.(Review - Miner, Sept. 29, 1939) In 1965, a skeleton measuring 8
feet 9 inches was found buried under a rock ledge along the Holly Creek in
east-central Kentucky.
What the above means is that a remnant of a race of giants survived
into the early 16th century (1519-1522). It gives full force and
credit to other reported encounters with giants in the Americas by Europeans
during that time period.
It also gives foundation credit to other reports of giants in the Americas, Europe and the Middle East and
other eras.
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Newspaper Reports
The following clippings are from various newspaper accounts, though
most are sourced through the New York Times.
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Giants
and Megaliths
Megalithic construction requires a 'motive' process that appears to be
well beyond the functional physical limitations of modern humans. Though when
the reality of Giant hominid capabilities (in terms of weight to strength
ratios) are applied to the motive problem, it nearly disappears.
First it is necessary to understand the nature of the physical
increases in strength between different sizes of humans.
The best evidence is
from the Guinness Book of World Records regarding the 'World's Tallest “Natural
Giant” in Recorded History', Angus Mackaskill, a Scotsman from Burneray, who
lived from 1825 to 1863. He was a 'true' giant, meaning he was of normal
proportions, suffering no abnormalities. He was 7' 9” tall and weighed just
over 500 lbs.
That ratio of height to strength means an
increase of roughly 28% in body height results in a 250% increase in
body weight and muscle mass. Using the standard model of 150% of body
weight as lifting capacity, his strength (lift weight) limit can easily
be determined at about 750 lbs.
Which means that a 10'
tall giant would weigh roughly 1,275 lbs and would have a lifting capacity of
about 1,912 lbs. While a 12'4” giant would weigh about 3,200 lbs with a lifting
capacity of about 4,820 lbs, which is
about 2.5 tons. At that rate 25 giants
could lift 100 ton, and 250 could lift 1000 ton.
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What the evidence seems to indicate is: Originally,
"there were a race of giants."
Their intellect and physical powers remains
legendary. They built colossal megalithic buildings, cities, towns, roads, and
walls (enclosures), They may have had other forms of advanced technology,
though all that remains of their technology is very large stone artifacts, some
primitive tools, and skeletal and funerary remains. It seems that the earliest
megalithic remnants appear to be the most sophisticated, with the largest and
best dressed megaliths at or near the bottom of ancient construction, with newer
materials, both smaller and less sophisticated are built over and on top of the
larger stones.
Over time those disasters left surviving 'groups'
in isolation from each other in specific 'pockets' around the world. Based on
Haplogroup X markers, O neg blood type, and linguistic roots, the related areas
and groups are; The North Berbers of the Atlas range, Canary Islanders, the
Basque, the Druze of Lebanon, the Celts, the Sumerians, as well as other groups
in Kashmir, Western China, the Gobi,
North America, South America, and areas of the Pacific rim.
In the impoverished environment which followed the last Super
Catastrophe 7,000 years ago, degeneration was accelerated. However, for some
time there persisted a significant, though decreasing proportion of hominids
who retained enormous stature. It is a possibility that remnants of those
giants still exist today as Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Alma, etc.
There seems to be several different form characteristics, with three
distinguishing features. The first is that some earlier ancestor giants were
not only of giant stature, but also long lived, with lifespans several times
that of modern humans. Others descendants of the original Nephilim, 'devolved'
or degenerated to what seems to be a larger form of marginal Neanderthals. And
last there appears to be significantly different body sizes and types. One
feature is that 'some' specific (but not all) giants had 6 fingers and 6 toes,
and a double row of teeth. This distinctive trait is seen all over the world.
Another trait is that 'some' (but not all) giants were 'red skinned or red
men', and some had red or russet hair.
The most significant characteristic is the difference in size range.
Using the historical record, the size range of the early current Epoch giants
and predecessors were 9' to 16' in height. That is for the giants that we have
specific records of.
(OG the king of Bashan) was a little over 12' tall. About 400 years
later, the general size had been reduced to between 9' and 10.5” (Goliath and
his brothers), which suggests a significant 'survivable' population) The average size of the giants up through
the post Colombian era seems to be about 7.5' to 10' tall. This group includes
the Patagonian Giants and other North and South American giants.
The above information is taken from historical records. There are
thousands of additional records of various giants found in all kinds of
circumstances, with various degrees of evidene including skeletal remains, oversized tools and reliable first hand reports over the last 2,500
years. It is not the intention of this paper to add information that is widely
available elsewhere on the internet. The purpose of this paper is to look at
the historical records, and determine if the credible testimony contained in that
record will substantiate the existence of giants in our current Epoch. (From 7,000 years ago to present) That
such giants lived in and near the City of Bashan and Mt Hermon; and were hunted
to near extinction by Moses and Joshua are historically recorded facts. The city
of Bashan stands in mute testimony to their presence.
The evidence for Giants in our Epoch, indicates they are descendents from a race of Giants that co-existed with Modern Humans, Cro Magnon, Neanderthals and other hominid species prior to the Last Great Cataclysm of 7,000 years ago. They, like other giant flora and fauna declined in stature, and then finally going nearly extinct as a species sometime in the last 1,500 years, with a very few remote and isolated pockets, like the Patagonia Giants surviving into a post Columbian period.
As a final note, I would include the distinct possibility that one of the 6 cataclysm during the last 15,000 years of the post ice age, included a drastic increase in the 'G' force of this planet, thereby causing the extinction of most giant flora and fauna, including giant humans. If that is the case, it would explain 'blood and tissue' remains in various non fosselized dinosaur bones that have been 14c tested, returning dates of less than 12,000 years before present. In fact, my next paper will make that case, conclusively.
John Jensen – Oct. 2010
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